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    Hello folks,

    Anyone from the show on-line from their hotel? Just wondering how the buzz has been so far this year and how the auctions are doing. The pieces I was watching in the Heritage auction closed where I expected on some and a bit higher on others.

    Anyone have a Triton or Gemini report?

    Wish I were there!

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  • #2
    Arrrggggggggggggghhhh...the suspense is killing me!

    Jeff

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    • #3
      I just got home from the Gemini sale. I only stayed to lot 64, the Alexander Pella tetradrachm, which is the coin I got outbid on. It went for $6500 vs estimate of $3000. The early Gemini lots were strong while I was there, stronger than Triton's Am sale, in my opinion. Triton was solid, and as usual, choice coins did very well, and the rest seemed to be equally above and below estimates. I was the underbidder on Triton's Jameson Larissa drachm (lot 218), which went for $8000 vs $2500 estimate. Another Larissa, lot 220, went for $6250 vs $3000 estimate. Not the best day for me...

      Jim

      PS: I left early because the room was way overcrowded and hot. I was standing with a small mob, barely inside the room at the rear door, holding my catalog, my coat, and with a pen in hand trying to write some results down.
      Last edited by tunaonrye0; Jan 6, 2009, 08:19 PM. Reason: add info

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      • #4
        You should have told me you were going. I sat in the back with Georgi (GMoneti) until a few minutes ago.

        We are heading out for a drink to celebrate our new found poverty. Georgi bought lot 569. I got 683 (below estimate).

        Ciao

        Mark

        Originally posted by tunaonrye0 View Post
        I just got home from the Gemini sale. I only stayed to lot 64, the Alexander Pella tetradrachm, which is the coin I got outbid on. It went for $6500 vs estimate of $3000. The early Gemini lots were strong while I was there, stronger than Triton's Am sale, in my opinion. Triton was solid, and as usual, choice coins did very well, and the rest seemed to be equally above and below estimates. I was the underbidder on Triton's Jameson Larissa drachm (lot 218), which went for $8000 vs $2500 estimate. Another Larissa, lot 220, went for $6250 vs $3000 estimate. Not the best day for me...

        Jim

        PS: I left early because the room was way overcrowded and hot. I was standing with a small mob, barely inside the room at the rear door, holding my catalog, my coat, and with a pen in hand trying to write some results down.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by 4to2centophilia View Post
          You should have told me you were going. I sat in the back with Georgi (GMoneti) until a few minutes ago.

          We are heading out for a drink to celebrate our new found poverty. Georgi bought lot 569. I got 683 (below estimate).

          Ciao

          Mark
          Ha Mark! You think your so cool having so much fun. Yea, well, I just got done shoveling for an hour! Beat that! Oh wait.....looking at coins vs. shoveling. Looking at really great coins vs. shoveling. Looking at and bidding on really great coins with friends and then going out for sushi and a nice drink vs. shoveling......

          DRAT! As the knight in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade would say..."he chose poorly". I'm there mentally with you though! Or, I'm just mental for not being there. Did I say DRAT yet? Drat!

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          • #6
            It's a good thing we got premium seating at Gemini, because it really was crowded and hot. There was some strong bidding, especially at the beginning, but I don't think any records fell this year.

            I was at Triton just for the Roman section, but the M. Aurelius sestertius I wanted went for three times the estimate, so I left. I think more lots at Triton went at or below estimate at Triton than Gemini this year though, from what I saw...and I saw a good five hours of Gemini. I know it's just sitting on a chair, but I've felt less tired harvesting potatoes by hand all day. Yeah, I've done that once.

            Edit: Zach, after your post I think I should retract my statement for being tired at the auction.
            Georgi

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            • #7
              I was at the AM Triton auction yesterday, the AM session of Triton this morning and Gemini yesterday evening. Gemini was INSANELY strong. I left after the intermission when things were going well above 2X estimate.

              Triton was surprisingly reasonable at times. I actually won one lot I wanted for my personal collection, I was just GIDDY considering I got it for $350!!!

              I got a call from my wife that my baby daughter was being taken to the emergency room and had to jump in a cab, so I missed out on the large lot sales, which I REALLY wanted to bid on. (Baby is fine, thank God)

              Anyway, I collect Barbarous and imitations, so this makes a real nice addition to my collection:
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              Alfredo De La Fe
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              • #8
                I had a feeling Gemini was going to be really strong this year. Don't know why for sure, but just had a hunch.

                Alfred - glad the little one is o.k.!

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                • #9
                  And even more amazing that some of the auction results are already posted for those of us who are glued to our computer screens waiting to hear how the auctions are going, Bruce Antonelli actually already has some of his winning Gemini lots in his store!



                  MACEDONIAN KINGDOM: ALEXANDER III (“the Great”). (336–323 BC). AR Tetradrachm. Carrhae, ca. 315–305 BC. Head of young Heracles right in lion skin headdress / ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ, Zeus enthroned left, supporting eagle on extended right hand and holding scepter in left, ME monogram in left field, ANT monogram under throne, above strut, ΣΡ monogram below strut. Price 3799. 25.9 mm. 16.91 gm. Obverse struck in high relief, with a slight scratch running horizontally across Zeus’ torso. Nearly mint state.

                  The strike is wonderful and the lustre is superb. Well worth a closer inspection.

                  Ex Gemini V, with ticket. Ex Commander David R. Hinkle Collection.

                  http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/inclin...idProduct=3138

                  Now THAT'S efficiency at its best!!

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                  • #10
                    An Alexander drachm sold for a record price at Gemini (Lot 67)... Very nice coin, but $1,600??? My jaw dropped, along with those of half the room.

                    Alfred
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by delafe View Post
                      An Alexander drachm sold for a record price at Gemini (Lot 67)... Very nice coin, but $1,600??? My jaw dropped, along with those of half the room.

                      Alfred
                      HOLY CRIPES!!!!!

                      Here is Lot 67: Estimate $200



                      Macedonia Kingdom. Alexander III, the Great. (336–323 BC). Silver drachm (4.31 gm). Miletus, ca. 323–ca. 323 BC. Head of young Heracles right in lion skin headdress / ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ, Zeus enthroned left, supporting eagle on extended right hand and holding scepter with left, ΗΔ monogram in left field, star under throne. Thompson 54a (same obverse die). Price 2089. Perfectly centered obverse. Mint state.

                      Acquired from Harlan J. Berk, July 1993.

                      and here is one I sold in my VCoins store for a mere $120 (what was I thinking?! I should have auctioned it apparently!!!)



                      Alexander the Great, AR Drachm, c.325-323 BC (Lifetime Issue), Macedonian Kingdom, Thrace-Miletus
                      (No legend)
                      Head of young Herakles right, wearing lion-skin headdress
                      ALEXANDROU
                      Zeus seated left, his left leg drawn back, feet on stool, eagle in right hand, scepter in left
                      Monogram in left field
                      17mm, 4.29g
                      Price 2090

                      Granted, the Gemini piece has been nicely cleaned and the obverse strike is a touch sharper, but $1500 sharper? That's kind of a jump.

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                      • #12
                        Conversely, I think this lot was a bargain:

                        Lot 791 - Estimate $1,500 - Realized $ $2,600



                        Augustus, unlabeled restoration by Trajan. (27 BC-14 AD). Silver denarius (3.71 gm). Rome, Reign of Trajan, 98-117 AD. CAESAR AVGVSTVS—DIVI F PATER PATRIAE, head laureate right / C L CAESARES AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT, Gaius and Lucius Caesars, togate, standing holding honorary shields and spears, ladle turned left and lituus turned right above. BMCRE 536, pl. 13.18. RIC 208. Mint state.

                        This rare variant of the Gaius and Lucius Caesars denarius of Augustus, with the two sacrificial implements on the reverse turned outwardly, not inwardly as usual, and struck in unusually fine style and on broad planchets, is known today in about fifteen specimens. The idea that these enigmatic pieces are unlabeled restored coins issued many years after the death of Augustus, perhaps under Trajan or Hadrian, was first suggested by Alan Walker in Leu 71, 24 October 1997, commentary to lot 293, and has since been accepted by most other cataloguers. Bernhard Woytek of Vienna has informed us that he is currently working on an article on these coins, in which he plans to thoroughly reexamine the question of their correct dating and attribution.

                        Trajan restitution denarii don't come to market too often. I've never actually owned one and just think they are very interesting.

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                        • #13
                          An I correct in saying that the Gemini Prices Realized are the Hammer Price and don't include the juice?

                          Thanks, Eugene

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Edessa1146 View Post
                            An I correct in saying that the Gemini Prices Realized are the Hammer Price and don't include the juice?

                            Thanks, Eugene
                            Yes. Just the hammer
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                            • #15
                              Rats. Foiled again.

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