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Old Jun 26, 2009, 10:40 AM   #1
Ron Kelley
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It Just Doesn't Look Right

I canít explain why I suspect the authenticity of this coin. It just doesnít look right. The size of the coin is 20.8 mm diameter, 2.3 mm thick, and 6.2 grams. I taught for 32 years and have been retired for 7 years but I am still looking to be educated. Your thoughts and insight will be appreciated.
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Old Jun 26, 2009, 12:20 PM   #2
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Ron,

I've handled some Pantikapaion coinage in the past, but not a huge number. It's not unusual to find the star countermark on them. However, this example looks oddly flat. Compare to this piece (sorry for the pics, I took them myself years ago, before I became a dealer and started sending everything to John Lavender to shoot professionally).



and here is an example of an uncountermarked specimen of the same type as yours:



Note the relatively decent relief on the obverse. On your coin, if I were to go out on a limb, appears as though to be an example of the star countermark on the obverse of an Anokhin 133 overstruck on another bronze, undeterminable of undertype. I think I see a legend on the edge of the obverse. Pretty fascinating actually.

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Old Jun 26, 2009, 10:14 PM   #3
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Hey Beast,
Thanks much for the info and the pictures. You are absolutely right about the coin being unusually flat. On the side of the coin with the star countermark it looks like there was detail that has been flattened even more than the rest of the coin.
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