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Old Dec 3, 2007, 07:13 PM   #1
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Thessalonica or Constantinople?

Dear listmembers,

I'm having a conundrum about this hyperpyron:



John II Comnenus, AV Hyperpyron, 1118-1143
IC | XC
Christ seated facing on throne without back, wearing nimbus cruciger, pallium and colobium, raising right hand in benediction, book of Gospels with five pellets on cover in left, double border
Iw DECPOTH
Facing half-length figures of the Virgin on right, nimbate, wearing pallium and maphorium, and John on left, crowned, wearing loros, akakia in right hand, both figures holding patriarchal cross between them, manus Dei above emperor, QV / MP above and right of Virgin
29mm x 32mm, 4.16g
SB 1938 or SB 1947

According to Sear Byzantine, the Constantinople issues of this type (SB 1938) are on c.30-33mm flans. Thessalonica issues (SB 1947) are on c.28mm flans which are smaller and thicker than their Constantinople counterparts. Flan-wise, this points to Constantinople. However, style-wise, the compact reverse and overall design to me looks more like a product of Thessalonica.

Here is an example of SB 1947 courtesy NAC via Coin Archives:


And SB 1938 courtesy UBS via Coin Archives:


Thoughts?

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Old Dec 4, 2007, 12:50 PM   #2
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Zach:

I think it's a Sear 1938 because there are only two legs visible on Chirst's throne unlike the four legs visible on the example of Sear 1947 from CoinArchives.

On the examples of Sear 1938 in CoinArchives all of the thrones show only two legs, while most of the examples of Sear 1947 in CoinArchives show three or more legs.

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Thanks Don! Actually, I bought this piece with you in mind since I thought it was a bit unusual. Thanks for the feedback!

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